If Madoff Might Not Have Placed A Single Trade, Guess How Many Bloggers/Message Board Posters Actually Trade

Posted by Timothy Sykes on Sat 17th of Jan, 2009 02:25:24 PM

Fascinating article I just read on Yahoo with regards to Bernie Madoff:

Seriously let’s all guess…I’m guessing about 1/3…because of shocking evidence like this:

“Our exams showed no evidence of trading on behalf of the investment advisor, no evidence of any customer statements being generated by the broker-dealer,” said Herb Perone, spokesman for the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority.

Madoff’s broker-dealer operation, Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities, underwent routine examinations by FINRA and its predecessor, the National Association of Securities Dealers, every two years since it opened in 1960, Perone said.

If this scumbag motherfrauder is getting examined every 2 years by allegedly competent organizations and somehow sneaks by them, I’m really curious as to how many traders/bloggers/hedge fund managers are pulling off the exact same fraud, just so they can sell products/get hits/management fees.

Seriously, nobody even checks bloggers, so we can assume the vast majority of them are full of crap. If you’re a blogger/message board poster and you want respect or not to be considered a liar/fraud, you would be signed up to Covestor or Cake Financial, two websites which verify all trades.

It’s understood regulations get in the way for some, but anonymous yellow-bellied cowards like “The Fly” can no longer brag about their gains until they prove they are real because chances are they’re lying to you.

Transparency walks, the entire rest of the financial blogosphere walks.

Obviously, this won’t happen quickly–finance has more frauds, liars, cheats and marketers than any other industry in the world–but in time, the internet will begin putting a dent in the lies and manipulation in this joke of an industry.

For now, if you see or hear about any great trade/investment, ask the person why they’re not willing to share ALL their results openly. Make them create tables like THIS. Lots of people have one good trade, but blow the rest–then they post on Elitetrader.com and pretend to be good.

This immaturity is pathetic and it must stop. C’mon finance freaks, don’t you ever want to get out of the soulless hole you’ve dug for yourselves over the years? Don’t you want people see your true stats and judge you for who you are rather than who you wish you wer?

Because if you’re good, it’s worthwhile, trust me, offers pop up everywhere

On another note, check out this paragraph from the article:

There also appear to be discrepancies between monthly statements sent to investors and the actual prices at which the stocks traded on Wall Street.

For example, his November statement showed he bought software maker Apple Inc’s securities at $100.78 each on November 12, about a month before his arrest.

But Apple’s stock on that day never traded above $93.24. The statement also showed he bought chip maker Intel Corp at $14.51 on November 12, but Intel’s highest price on that day was $13.97.

That’s right, errors anybody with access to Yahoo! Finance could pick up, but somehow $50 billion never knew what hit them. Proves my point about how infinitely dumb finance people are–much more than you can ever imagine…you could make a friggin instructional DVD teaching people how to calculate PE ratios and it’d sell bigtime…so don’t hate the playa, hate the game.

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  • Max
    On the contrary, your conclusion should be hate the playa and not the game. You and I both enjoy the game, just not playas like madoff, right?
  • Actually, we like the fly precisely because he posts trades as he makes them, with prices that match market price and....ya....he wins a lot. Liquid stocks that scale to more than a few k $$

    He's very good and everyone that reads him for more than a year agrees on that.

    Very transparent, very good trader that is hilarious and quite a writer.

    Worth following
  • Zykosis
    themarketkid is just awesome, lol, never had a down day ever.
  • Summary of Gurus
    First, here is support and resistance. see how in the past it held. if it didn't, well it's because of the trend. if it "failed" it's because of a trap or some divergence. if that didn't work then it's because of longer-term charts or fibs or ma's or pivots or some projected wave. ok, now remember to trade with the trend. but i will fade the trend if i think it's overextended, and if wrong well it's a trend and i'm right. then i have levels from $4 to $190 that should work well. see, told you. now look how volume did this and that, so then this gap is good or not, and then always cover at the low or high because it's super obvious that the level would hold. now buy my book.
  • again, anybody can post trades, even in realtime, doesnt mean they're making them AT ALL...i dont trust anyone in the industry without a bigtime audit or some service that taps directly into their accounts each day, but thats just me...i agree the fly is an entertaining writer, lets cll him the james frey of financial blogging
  • Franklin B
    Did I just read that Timothy thinks The Fly is an entertaining writer? shhhhh !!

    btw Timothy ... you are a f$%^&*g spitting image of a friend I grew up with! No shit sherlock, your faces are ridiculously alike! Freaking twins! From the mischievious twinkle in your eyes, to your hair color & texture, cheshire cat grin .... I've never seen anything like it ..... Except that he is 51 years old. A rock drummer who now lives in LA, grew up in Rye Brook, NY.

    Check out this link with pics.

    http://www.egomaniarecords.com/Musician_Drum-SS...
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