I will put my $1000/- on Brian any day.

I see that the 9 out of 10 losers are the first ones to reply to this thread. Maybe its time for them to stop being so bitter and try to learn something instead so they could be happy as the rest of us that are making money. I have Brian's book and have followed his site for about 2 years now. All I can say is that his analysis is very unbiased no matter what the market does on any given day. If you are a true player in the market a $1000 is peanuts. I will be attending as soon as I iron out the logistics.

i plan on going but im not gonna pay for it till the 1st week of jan when i get confirmation to see if i can go

Brian Shannon Has all my respect. I have read his book, Needless to say, "excellent". Follow his website every day. would love to attend. However as I live in California, the logistics are impossible for me this time... I guess i'll be missing out.

negative comments will be deleted if they're not useful/eductional...i'm not mature enough to be above all the elitetrader-type crap, biran shannon is....he's right and i look up to him for it...u want to post crap about somebody who busts his butt 24/7, like i do, start a blog and write whatever u want....i wont let u losers tear down a great blogger who i have the greatest respect for. suck on that, only positive/helpful energy in 2009

You said, "9 out of 10 of you reading this are losing money trading, we’re not." IF, IF you sell seminars based on this fact and your both actually NOT making money, isn't this false advertising? Please delete that sentence. The rest is subjective, and of course is fine.

uhhh we are both making $, its the losers who arent that make nasty comments...i'd be pissed too if i spent all my time trading and losing but that sums up the degenerates in this space

seriously guys, only useful comments with regards to shannon, i can take the heat cuz i've been dealing with degenerate commenters for a year, i dont want brian to have to deal with such idiocy...

haha comment #10, did you catch Anchorman on TBS last weekend? I picked up on that quote right away..

btw I was at the Vegas seminar, lots of good stuff there, more than I could even absorb in a day.. it's a little overwhelming, being a bum in the stock market, listening to people who make money on a consistent basis. However, it's definitely worth the money to replace all those little bad habits and bad ideas that you have with better habits are more profitable ideas, if you're willing to let go of your ego, sharpen your pencil and your brain, and learn a little bit...

dude what does poor mahogany smell like?

mold

=[ cries out in australia...not fiar

Wow. I wish I could (privately) see the negative comments posted about Brian that were deleted, only because I can't *imagine* what negative things anyone has to say about Brian.

I'm new to Tim Sykes, so I know relatively little about him. However, if Brian is doing a seminar with him, he must be pretty good.

As for Brian Shannon, these are the cold, hard facts:

(1) Brian's book is KILLER. I'm not exaggerating when I say it is the Holy Grail of Trading for me. (I concede that the same information may be contained within a few other trading books out there, but I have read about 60 trading books, either in whole or in part, and it was only after reading Brian's book that everything just "clicked"). After 12 years of trading, it was like a brick of understanding in the face---I finally got it. It all made sense. His book just delivers, point by point, every simple element you need to know to understand how to trade with the highest chance of profit per trade, and with the lowest risk. All the other crap is stripped away. In retrospect, I would have paid $10,000 for the information in that book, if I'd known it would give me the solid info that I know is so enlightening today.

(2) I follow Brian's site and watch his video daily. He is consistently insightful and objective. He always trades and comments with the attitude that the market is bigger than you, and you can only trade with a trend and assume the lowest risk by doing so, acknowledging that the market can always move against you, and all you can do is trade with optimal risk management. I learn something new every day, or see how his analysis applies to real market situations. (Anyone else who claims they have a guaranteed system is a liar, because unless they can manipulate the minds of a trillion investors, they cannot predict with certainty which way a stock or instrument will move under any circumstances.)

(3) Brian's blog and video are FREE. This guy is really one of the best traders out there, consistently making money, consistenly showing you how to make profit with the lowest risk, and providing the insight on how to do it... for free! The only thing you pay for is his book. And even if you don't buy his book, the site is still free. He could easily be charging hundreds a month for that site.

So what is it that people have an issue with??

I'd love to know.

That said, I don't actually care. I don't need to see the negative viewpoints in this case, because:

- Brian's information is unbiased, clear, and objective.

- Brian keeps providing new information and trade-setup suggestions that you can use to your advantage.

- I consistenly make money using his strategies, which are actually very simple.

No negative comments can change these facts.

And the only money I have ever given Brian is the $70-ish I paid for his book.

(And the future $1000 I'll be spending on his seminar, once my Feb. schedule is sorted out).

End of story.

I second that, Brian is great. I hoped I can make enough money to go to the seminar. I don't know much about Tim but 250% speaks for itself. Very few people have had that kind of success in 2008.

Shaun, the problem people have is that he cannot prove his income. I've been trading for 2 years, and i'm pretty sure i make more than this guy with his years of experience.

OK, I see. That's fair.

I don't know what the *rest* of the comments were about Brian, but---

I imagine Brian would gladly post his percentage profits, but there are a few factors at play:

- Whether you make more than him in dollar amounts isn't necessarily relevant---percentage profits are more important---capital traded is important. If someone has a $7,000,000 account, they could make more money in a day than Brian makes in a year on one (lucky) trade.

- Consistency of profits is also important. Being able to make money consistently in all markets, in all directions, is important. My friend's investment advisor made him 35% in one year, and 20% the year before. This year he's lost him nearly 45%. Before this year, he thought that guy was a genius.

- Brian is not a public company. I don't think he necessarily wants people knowing how much money he makes on a day-to-day basis, with good reason. [[I don't want people to know how much *I* make]]. After all, he's not trading other people's money. He has mentioned this before in his blog, I think.

- Given that previous fact, Brian could, in theory, mention his trades as they take place (he does so to a certain extent on Twitter), but he daytrades (as I do) and mentioning those trades before they happen is not easy. (I know it would be impossible for ME to record all of my trades right before executing them, because timing is crucial, and recording them down to the second is time-consuming and not always possible). Right now he is doing more daytrading than swing trades.

((- And if Brian doesn't mention all his trades and they're not audited, how do you know you make more than he does? :) He's sent me his trading records from time to time---if you're looking at his $750-ish gains from yesterday, don't think that's the extent of how much he *always* makes in a day.))

Anyway, it's a fair point. All I know is that the techniques from Brian's book work.

I know lots of people who do a lot of scalping in various markets, and they do well for a few months, or recognize certain patterns, set-ups or how certain commodities (in futures markets) work in combination with certain indicators. However, in the longer term, these patterns cease to work so well, and end up losing them money. [For example, I daytraded gold futures in January using stochastics, RSI, and MACD to a certain extent. I made lots of money for weeks by selling when RSI and stochs were very high, and buying when they were low. I thought I had a system, but it started to break down, and it ended up having a much higher failure rate.] What you need is a system that is minimal risk and has a higher probability rate of making money.

(I don't know what trading system you personally use, so I can't comment further in that regard.)

Personally, I've yet to see a more consistently profitable trading system than Brian's. I'm not saying it's necessarily the final solution of all systems, but it's very, very good, and I almost always find set-ups on a day-to-day basis.

**The only reason I'm defending Brian so vehemently is that I'm CONSISTENTLY making profits trading, NOW that I've read his book (having always had problems making money *consistently* _before_ reading it) and once you read his book, you see that all of his trading methods make pure sense. I have been forwarded some of the comments written before, that were deleted, and none of those particular ones really address real issues beyond the need for audited results.

I understand that people want to see some sort of proof that the techniques work, though. The only thing I can suggest in that matter is to read his blog and see what he posts before it happens, and watch how consistently he gets things right. Also, watch his posts on twitter and watch some of his trades in action. I agree it is not a pure audit of his profits, however.

Good luck.

Shaun

TIM, i am in love with u, i cant deny it any longer, please feel free to edit my comments, thanks for being u!

I will teach you moving averages, no results, what vwap is, how to recognize if is falling or rising, and how to see support (lows u moron) and highs. Then I will tell you how to plot the 50, 100 and 200 dma's, all for only $2,000. I need 100 people, then I will go away forever.

What it all comes down to....those who can trade....trade and do great. Those who can't trade......teach. Tim and Brian both must not be very good traders or why would they actually charge money for seminars? The guys who go around giving these seminars obviously aren't good traders so they must supplement their income with fees for their "classes". I know plenty of top traders out there who actually trade for real (not a few hundred shares of penny stocks) and never charge a thing to help others. They dont need to...why....because they make so much from trading. Be wary of guys who can't trade but do teach.

woah there, as i and others have written about multiple times, trading is dangerous/addictive/lonely-not only is teaching extra steady income in a non steady niche, its extremely fulfilling...considering the vast majority of teachers are full of crap, anybody who has anythign solid o ffer can make a fortune just by being real, welcome to my biz model

Remember, this was marketing "9 out of 10 of you reading this are losing money trading, we’re not." This can NOT be a lie.....

or then maybe this down the road:

http://www.cftc.gov/opa/enf04/opa4977-04.htm

I bought the bookbased on wanting to see what he had to say about trend alignment and multiple time frames etc ... 75% of the book is the same ole recycled crap .. i really think that someone who goes to the trouble of posting videos to every free video site on the net to attract traffic to a blog to sell a book could not possibly have the time to do all that if it wasn't BADLY needed (ie, lack of trading profits) ... and to beat it all he's trying to seminar the crap to boot.

Ask Brian Shannon, "So what you're saying is: more money is to be made and time better spent in selling this product as opposed to not selling the product and implementing it instead?" END OF STORY. Thanks for sharing results, I'm sure you are up soo much that you don't want to brag. lol. I remember you said you were Head of Research at your last firm, but they went under? Must have been good picks, maybe soo good that the company had to close? LOL.

Where is this seminar being held? I don't see the location.