The Most Important Lesson I Could Ever Teach

Posted by timothysykes on Mon 11th of Aug, 2008 03:04:54 PM

Somebody just emailed me:

How large is the percentage of frauds in penny stock…? Just to get a feel of the truth

Hard to say, but I’d venture anywhere from 90-99%.

Seriously.

The good news is that once you accept this and start distrusting everyone, you can learn to profit from all the manipulation. Start HERE.

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  • we need more posts like these :)
  • younggunz
    Like what? Short and to the point?


    Basically trust no one.
  • Bob (VC)
    This is a twitter sized post. Nice interview w/Sarah buy the way Tim..
  • Our servers are having issues this morning - hence the slow site. Will be back shortly in full steam..
  • TheParadox
    When i read this post, my first reaction was... "no, can't be THAT high"

    But then i though about it some more and concluded most real companies that return to doing real business usually make it out of the $1-5 range. I can't think of a real company with a good business model that has sat in that range for, oh, i dunno... more than 6 months? A lot of these frauds go down and stay down until some news/PR/Spam pumps them up and stirs interest.

    I'd say you 90-99% is pretty accurate... but i'd lean more toward 92.73%
  • TheParadox
    ...also, It seems pretty common knowledge to screen stocks with a price above $5 to avoid pump & dumps.
  • SamuraiRat
    Don't be so cynical time, its probably only like 85%
  • Scotty
    Timmay
  • haha scotty ya little sack of shit, TIMalerts is bumpin, even when there's no great plays, i've been doing this 10 years, u think i'm scared of any slowdown, haters, SEC, fucken anybody? nope. as long as i can prove my alerts/posts can make people $, i'll be just fine. considering how pathetic the entire trading education industry is, its not even a competition, i've already won, some slow people like u just dont know it yet
  • SamuraiRat
    Damn Scotty, Tim just gave you a D Eye Double S.
  • LiveStock is the ONLY live financial show...we need chat moderation, other than that its growing nicely each week...and just wait til we introduce more video clips, dont worry, people like u only motivate me more, fucken dumbasses used to stock picking shows with 500 picks that are totally useless. bring it bitch, i'm tim sykes u're just some internet alias piece of shit
  • live interactive show that is...without chat moderation of course its gonna be messy, working with mogulus on that
  • total_keops
    Scotty, he seems to have work on it to get us some real interest to the game... Sarah Austin said she will show up.

    http://pop17.com/
  • younggunz
    I'd rather have a show cut short and being honest then have a show full of bullshit, gossip, and hype like 90% of CNBC's show schedule.
  • younggunz
    Finance and stocks at it's core are boring. What makes it exciting is when there ara a lot of hot plays. Last week wasn't very busy for plays that Tim likes to do so there wasn't a lot of stuff to discuss. There were also a lot of shitheads in the chat that made it hard for the core viewers to interact. Hopefully that will change soon enough.
  • getshorty
    Did anybody saw the three white soldiers in MHGC or in CSAR ?

    Independently from these being or not pumps and dumps,aren't they supposed to go up tomorrow and if not could get out at first sight of weakness, just based on the chart?

    I already got Tim's answer saying MHGC is not a pump and dump, but independently from that, I want to learn some more as well. So anybody else with some TA knowledge let me know, I am still studying this 330 pages japanese candlestick book, and the weekend was no enough, maybe should take a few days off trading and complete it.
  • total_keops
    3 white soldiers is a continuation pattern from what I remember. So, getting short is not that good an idea. There can be a reversal short term but the mid term trend is bullish (from what the 3 white soldiers are supposed to mean).
    MHGC looks stronger on volume and there is strong support at 15.
    CSAR at 2.60-2.80 is definitely a short.
  • total_keops
    My watch list for tomorow;
    IMDS, CHC, GDTI, BIOS, FRHV, RAMR.
    None of them is perfect.
  • getshorty
    THKS Keops, you are right, I am long MHGC, not short
  • sarah austin is foxy, looking forward to her on livestock this fri.
  • SamuraiRat
    Short HRP!
  • getshorty
    Somebody bought 167 900 shares of MHGC after hours at $17.00. This should help to hold the open.
  • MHGC great breakout
  • TheParadox
    Jeez Tim, you sure have some serious haters... People with some aggression and revenge on their mind.

    I guess i would be kinda pissed if i was too stupid to cough up 30 bucks for real time trading advice that might score me a quick 5-15% in one day.

    Oh, and i decided after trying Tim alerts for about 2 weeks to go ahead and xfer $20k to my new TOS account. I'll buy a year subscription and the DVD on my next trade.
  • total_keops
    I dont know what's the deal with MHGC, I would be out of that thing for sure. There's a kind of hype about it around here.
  • Im a Banker
    Im an Investment Banker
  • #27, how does it feel to be near completely useless?
  • Mike_13th
    Kinda dead here for us "passers by"
    So a watchlist for us:

    http://darksidetrading.blogspot.com/

    Tim, you know I still love ya:)
  • Scotty
    Timmo, are you freakin serious with the "i'm tim sykes" psychosis?? Do you honestly have that much of a Napoleanic complex?? Wow, you are one insecure dude. There's a bevy of EliteTraders that certainly are impressed with Tim Sykes---I haven't seen that much hatred since the Nuremberg trials. But you are a funny one...about as funny as the waiting room at Sloan-Kettering. I'll bide my time waiting for the implosion of TimAlerts...It's only a matter of time before your lack of discipline dooms TimAlerts just like it did your so-called hedge fund. A million dollar hedge fund...man you're a pisser TimTim. Adios amigos...
  • haha i knew calling myself in the 3rd person would rile up scotty and every other nitwit hater...tooo easy, i'm waaaay over the ego thing dude, now i just like playing off others assumptions...i dont give a shit whether elitetraders are impressed or depressed, they're all failures or successes who've failed at taking this mainstream
  • johnnyvento
    I'm still wondering why a blog from a 13 y.o. trading with other people's money made it into the "11 most popular penny blogs"

    Oh wait, that was an ego-stroking link exchange post as payback for buying Tim alerts.
  • vento quit your bitching and start a blog...anybody who practices pennystocking and blogs about it gets on this list, so far u got nothing except some chatroom copy and pastes
  • johnnyvento
    Oof.. chatroom copy and pastes is what Mike_13 posts here, not me
  • exactly, u just bitch and whine, youre getting outclassed by a 13 year old
  • johnnyvento
    this is the guy who is outclassing me

    (Jun 17-09:35) bizcboy13: whats new?
    (Jun 17-09:38) bizcboy13: and good shorts today?
    (Jun 17-10:03) bizcboy13: does anyone here play charts?
    (Jun 17-10:51) bizcboy13: who here has timothy sykes dvd?
    (Jun 17-10:51) bizcboy13: if u dont ur either poor, stupid, or lazy
    (Jun 17-11:11) bizcboy13: any good short picks
    (Jun 17-11:16) sent sound: bear
    (Jun 17-11:19) sent sound: ambulance
    (Jun 17-11:19) sent sound: ambulance
    (Jun 17-11:19) sent sound: applause
    (Jun 17-11:19) therumpledone: bizcboy13
    (Jun 17-11:19) therumpledone: that's annoying
    (Jun 17-11:19) wpg: chill on the sounds!
    (Jun 17-11:19) SlowPoke: i just put him on my ignore list
    (Jun 17-11:19) lighter: what the hell
    (Jun 17-11:19) GLOBALSS: kill him
    (Jun 17-11:19) bizcboy13: good for u slowpoke


    Oh wait, that is a chatroom cut and paste

    I can see why you like him, he pumped your DVD in the chat
  • Olympiakos09
    haha its funny to see all these lil bitches hatin on u timmy..last time i checked the point of wat we all do is to make MONEY! and so far we have all made $ thanks to you..so to vento and scotty shut the fuck up before tim crushes you with his wallet
  • who cares about my DVd, he coulda ripped it and i'd still feature him cuz he's putting himself out there...the kid is annoying, he even knows it, and yet we come back to the same fact: he has a blog and you're just a whiny little bitch who doesnt
  • Olympiakos09
    just read ur book timmy buddy...fucken awesome book..i recommed it to every1..even you vento u lil fuck
  • johnnyvento
    so a blog > being in the chat for months trying to make good calls in real time... good to know

    If only I put 3 articles on blogspot, I'd be good

    Can you make your next post about the people who gave a 13 y.o. money to trade with
  • johnnyvento
    Olympiakos09, hello! Nice to meet you!
  • johnnyvento
    Olumpiakos09 is the reason people think you have fake aliases, he came along at the perfecdt time w/ $6 Timbucks and defended you like a trooper

    By the way, I never thought you had aliases, but sometimes they imitate you a little too perfectly, like the way they all use 'ur' for 'you are' and call me 'vento' like you do instead of 'johnny' or 'johnnyvento' or 'jv'

    who knows, just a conspiracy theory
  • haha love the conspiracy theories, keep em comin
  • johnnyvento
    Another thing that is REALLY INCRIMINATING about the fake aliases: is the way the 'new' poster Olympiakos09 uses the word 'fucken' to insult me.

    Here is a list of the times TimothySykes has used the word 'fucken' on his blog (partial):


    28TIM Sykes
    July 26th, 2008 at 7:05 am

    new post, its fucken great:
    http://www.timothysykes.com/ad.....oing-down/



    18timothysykes
    May 22nd, 2008 at 9:45 am

    covered FPP inside of 5 minutes at $6.25, nice gain, fucken pissed i missed PDO!!!!!!

    8timothysykes
    June 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    yes rambone, 35% drops in 1 day are whats needed for me to make 7%
  • fucken awesome/useless posts we've got goin this morn
  • Olympiakos09
    HAHAHA that is the worst excuse ive eva heard..because i used "ur" instead of "you are" im def tim sykes? ru blazed kid? the whole world uses shortcuts like that
  • thanks for hte kind words olympiakos, or wait are you me? lol, hmmm wonder why timalerts is growing so much faster, u free people are like eitetraders
  • johnnyvento
    How many other posters have used the word 'fucken' on this blog?

    I CAN'T FIND ANY NOT ASSOCIATED WITH TIM, IF YOU CAN POST THEM HERE.
  • johnnyvento
    the multiple use of 'fucken' is much more incriminating. Try to keep up fake alias.
  • dude i dont use fake aliases, i'd be too scared to sign in and out with the wrong one! oh yeah and the fact that NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS ITS ALL ABOUT TEACHING PEOPLE TO PROFIT
  • Olympiakos09
    and since tim has made me $$ thats all that counts..stop being mad @ the world johnnyv just cuz ur poor and a loser
  • fuckenvento
    shut the fuck up
  • johnnyvento
    believe it or not I've actually defended you against the fake aliass charge... but this was just too much... if you want to go after me then I will go after your fake aliases.. that is the battle you chose

    I STILL believe, as I have said many times, that you have much to offer... but you do funny stuff like post links to blogs of 13 year olds.. then rip on people like me for calling you on it...

    Good luck Olympiakos09, followed by well-timed TimothySykes comment 1 minute later
  • johnnyvento
    haha #52 proves my case
  • haha this is just too funny, so now on the list of absurdities peopel think i a.) conspire with bigtime hedge funds to bring down stocks b.) use fake aliases c.) lost all my $ d.) blahhhh, really all i am is just a trader who has a cool little niche strategy and i'm banking off teaching it to others...everything else is just a joke
  • blame me, defend me, none of that shit matters, amazing that people cant figure that out yet
  • vento, picture livestock, i have 200 fucken people on there each week, u really dont think 2 people can be on this site at once? newsflash dumbass: 33 people online right now--check sitemeter, i get greenontehscreen traffic x 20 or more
  • oh and this proves how wrong u r, shoulda brought it out earlier but i enjoy watching people and their assumptions make fools of themselves publicly:

    fuckenvento | 72.131.126.7

    shut the fuck up

    From The Most Important Lesson I Could Ever Teach, 2008/08/12 at 2:24 AM

    2008/08/12 Unapprove | Spam | Delete

    Olympiakos09 | 65.175.230.223

    and since tim has made me $$ thats all that counts..stop being mad @ the world johnnyv just cuz ur poor and a loser

    From The Most Important Lesson I Could Ever Teach, 2008/08/12 at 2:23 AM

    2008/08/12 Unapprove | Spam | Delete

    timothysykes | 69.203.91.249

    dude i dont use fake aliases, i
  • and since u're a half brain the last post shows people's IP addresses, look em up dumbass
  • fuckenvento
    tim, i hope this douchebag doesnt piss you off too much. i see him in greenonthescreen chat every day and this guy is easily the biggest crabby wetblanket bitch bag i've ever seen. constantly bitching and whining on shit. the way he talks you think hes some kind of trading god. you know whats more hilarious, apparently this dummy's day job is a scientist. i guess thats the type of profession that promotes alot of random uninformed guessing and conspiracies, instead of relying on facts. seriously, get a fucking blog you dumb cunt. nobody wants to hear your pissing and moaning anymore. go fuck yourself vento, venny, johnnyvento, jv, johnnyvenereal disease, bitch
  • haha, nah i dont care, i encourage open debate about everything, pretty funny these guys actually think i'd use fakes, but people have been burned so much by the BS artists in this industry, i dont blame em for being skepical
  • younggunz
    What the fuck are you bitching about anyways? Who gives a shit if he posts a link to some kid with a blog that has 3 blog posts about pennystocking. Tim was NICE enough to give him a shout out and then you have to be a DICK and try and squash it. The kid is fucking 13 y.o of course he's going to be naive and a little annoying. The kid has to start somewhere. I give him props for taking an interest in trading in the stock market. Shit at 13 all I was doing was going to the mall looking for hotties and riding my bike around the neighborhood getting into trouble.

    Some of you haters get your bitch fests way out of perspective. Why the fuck do you care? Honestly its sad that some people get their entertainment for the day trying to start fights in chatrooms or blog sites.

    I have not seen a single hater come on the site that has bought Tim's products and bitched about losing money because of him. The only haters I ever see are passing by or just here just to post and haven't even tried out anything Tim is selling to give it their own review.

    Its not like he's censoring his comments if he did he'd have already whipped out all of vento's retarded comments a long time ago. So far I haven't seen a single person post a valid argument about why they hate or dislike what Tim is doing. Only thing most people have to attack him on is his personality.
  • Joker
    Hey, hey, enough of the bullshit guys. Focus on picks, not challenging whose cock is bigger.

    Hey Timmay, get our accounts to this level. http://www.screenindia.com/news/The-Dark-Knight...

    why so serious?
  • LOL vento go owned, it'll be interesting to see when, if ever he'll be back posting....let this be a lesson to all, never make assumptions based on circumstantial evidence, goes for trading too
  • johnnyvento
    fuckenvento,

    what is your screen name in the greenonthescreen chat? I have the chat logs for the past 4 monts, I can easily see what days you were there and what calls (if any) you made.

    The fact that you know I am a scientist and use that as a way to insult me just seems like more proof that this is a fake alias- I mean who would create a name just for me???

    The list of IP addresses doesn't really prove anything either. As a scientist I know how to analyze real and fake data. Nice try.

    Nice to see Yngvaimalmsteve question the price action of TIMalerts, I hope investors live reams him a new asshole, I'm sitting this one out-

    I still believe that these are fake aliases- the blog post of indetermiate IP addresses does not really resolve the situation, since this post is originated by the very person in question of forging the data. That is not an answer.

    Make fun of a scientist if you will, but you will have to do better than that to actually fool anyone, your data does not pass the smell test, be sure to tell that to fuckenvento as well
  • LOL, still with the whole fake aliases thing huh? tell me, what good would it do me? seriously? if i think i can make good calls, wouldnt i want to take all the credit myself? dumb little hyena, i've had enough of u, go start a blog and bitch on that
  • johnnyvento
    The first thing is to identify fuckenvento, he posted on your blog that he was in greenonthescreen chatroom everyday, I have all of the logs everyday, that you probably do not realize.

    SINCE YOU DO NOT realize that, this is an opportunity to catch fuckenvento in a lie. WHAT IS YOUR SCREENNAME in greenonthescreen chat?

    If this cannot be answered, then stop loling me, I want to know who fuckenvento is, since he has come after me personally.

    Say what you will Tim, but the data don't add up... stop lol'ing me... and

    fuckenvento, what is your screenname in GOS???
  • u're right the dat dont add up, the radiow aves form your computer have made u lose your mind...i posted the IPa ddresses, nothing more i can do. stop wasting my time, put your conspiracy theories somewhere else cuz after this post i'm done repsonding to this foolishness
  • johnnyvento
    nice dodge, I want an answer to the question of who is fuckenvento

    HE HAS CLAIMED to be in the GOS chatroom, so what is his alias?

    If you cannot be a neutral arbiter in who is a liar here, then back the fuck off.

    I want to know who fuckenvento was in GOS chat.

    Why is that so difficult?
  • how the fuck am i supposed to know who he is, or u, or anybody. i dont use aliases, either start talking stocks or get outta here
  • johnnyvento
    When I am right in a disupute between members here that you are involved in, you should at least acknowledge that I am correct in my assertions... you want to arbitrate but then when I am correct you want to lol your way out of it, either acknowlegde it or stay the fuck away, either way I win this argument with fuckenvento.... that is a made up name and I called him on it, how dare you say I won't post here again, fuck you

    fuckenvento is a made up name, don't you all realize it
  • johnnyvento
    I have many stocks to talk about... I am even starting a blog so you can come over there and blast me.... but I can't get past that you would make fake names to insult me, and say you were in GOS chat when you weren't... I mean you have the attention span of a fly... you are a great trader but I don't know why you would do that inane shit
  • dude, when u accuse me of using fake aliases, i provide IP addresses proving u wrong, thats it. u say sorry, we move on. u're just as annoying as biczboy who got banned, and if u continue with this stupid commentary, u'll be banned here too. this is not elitetrader, we dont tolerate mindless attacks back and forth for page views
  • good start a blog, i really didnt create a fake name, just no point dude, it really is HILARIOUS that u think i'd waste my time doing that, but i've met a lot of weird people in this game, u're just the latest
  • johnnyvento
    if not you, then fuckenvento needs to step forward and say who he is... he claims to be in the same chat as me, and he claims to know what I do for a living... let him step forward and say who he is, otherwise the whole affair remains suspect. You can try to lol your way out of it but those were too many coincidences to ignore, lol

    You are really good at obfuscation and cynicism but I can only imagine how your TIM alerts followers felt this last time, lol anyone who blindly follows anyone's calls should be punished


    LOL, isn't that what you would say if it were about someone else, LOL
  • johnnyvento
    the other clue about fuckenvento, besides the incredibly obvious one that you would be the only one to fake the data that you were 'in the chat' with me the whole time and that I was 'whiney', is the way that you overcompensated by using every variation of my nickname- I busted you on 'vento' and you listed vento, venny, jv, haha that list was awesome

    WAY TO OVERSOMPENSATE Timmay!!!

    haha
  • what chat, i got a new computer dude, i dont even have access to my old emails, dont know my password, dont care, seriously last time i'm responding to this nonsense, next comment, u go to the spam box where u belong
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